Originally posted by: EkPaheli
Yet to read the trilogy by Tripathi. The synopsis didn’t quite excite me tbh.
the writing has some issues bt his interpretation was quite interesting. atlst by desi standards who now massacre the epics and bullsht romance genre
Ranveer doesn’t have a legacy surname which is why the industry was willing to write him off until Dhurandhar and then refused to celebrate him despite his duology becoming the first time that any Hindi movie crossed over a 1000 crores in a single language with the first one and then the two combined earn more than 3000 crores making the two the most successful franchise ever in the history of Indian cinema across the industries.
also a lot of crticism was on how he acts hyper off screen. it was so dumb. he can be nude for all people care and it shouldnt impact movies at all, bt our online junta is such Cs. they need to get into everything and give their judgement
dhurandhar success is a tight slap to them as well. its funny to see them hyping ranveer, talk abt doglapanti
ranveer was best part of rocky rani. i watched that movie and i was like i want my rocky now
he was so dreamy.
His contemporaries would rather begrudgingly credit Dhar than him for the success despite the fact that he essayed a role that not many mainstream A list actors would have been willing to play especially in the first part. Here all the major characters were given the hero treatment regardless of the shade of their character and in the second part we saw him getting captured and beat up by random extras posing as the ISI officers and he’s rescued essentially unlike the others who blast or punch their way out of enemy territory regardless of the stakes involved and being within enemy territory. In fact, even serendipity helped him as did his willingness to take suggestions made even jokingly during the course of the shoot. Do you know that the doctor who stepped out of that plane in the end who helps Jaskirat board the flight was in fact an actual doctor? They were shooting this sequence in Punjab especially because they needed that whole chase through the Muridke part through narrow lanes. Ranveer accidentally hit Rampal and a doctor was called in from a nearby hospital on an emergency basis to check on him and do the necessary. Rampal jokingly told Dhar and Ranveer that they should use the opportunity to include the man in the shoot for the scene later that day where Ranveer’s character is supposed to fly off back to India discreetly considering that Rampal knew that Ranveer will be shown as being captured post killing him. Ranveer and Dhar actually liked the suggestion and felt it was organic as well given the fact that Hamza was wounded severely thanks to the knife amongst the other injuries sustained during the course of the prolonged fight sequence followed by the torture and they asked the doctor who was game for a cameo. The doctor wouldn’t even be in the frame had either Ranveer or Dhar refused to take that suggestion made as a joke. But the fact that both acknowledged it made sense and only went onto show our armed and intelligence forces in a better light as well as didn’t hurt. No one could claim that he was treated and absolutely cured of everything in the ride itself but the whole situation showed how our forces were treating their own with respect and concern as well because preliminary first aid could certainly be done on that flight. An actor who wanted to look macho would’ve declined to go through with the sequence as if it made him look lesser and weaker. There’s some interview by RGV wherein he alluded to a very prolonged climax sequence in a movie with a fight where he said that the hero didn’t look like he was affected at all by all the hits he was taking and when he asked the director or someone involved in the crew he said that the man told him the manager of the actor was adamant that he looked like that because else his fans would be upset and disappointed. He didn’t name anyone but I don’t think he was lying either because we have seen stuff like this where we question logic and common sense.
intresting tidbit about the doctor.
you know common sense isnt common. biggest issue with bollywood is a section of producers+actors dont give a shit what audience want to watch
if you follow this youtuber reviewer shan parasher. he makes such valid points that in hollywood in low scale they have obsession kinda movie, and here we have haunted 3d. that there is a haunted 3d i got to know today. its so shit. when raaz 1920 these movies came atlst it was a mix of good music, good looking actors, actual jumpscare. now we have stree which went from small town comedy to whatver it is today
everyone wants to make stupid ass multiverse bt no one looks at marvel's hardword. its been decades of their comicbooks, 3 different spiderman and 2 hulk, 2 franchise of fantastic 4. a decade of setting up characters. they took small actors and made them big. and marvel lost their way after endgame and trying to change it. spiderman brand new day was quite different handling. bw wants quick money, so they make welcome 2 golmaan 7 dhamal 10 kinda stupid ass movies. they faltered in movies bt their shows was so good. jessica jones is so dark bt with a badass female character. there is agents of shield. loki, daredevil. my favorite punisher. there is no effort from bollywood apart from these mythos they are trying.
and you know i dont even blame these people. our audience mocked dhurandhar and then started to mock others to hype it up. for such braindead fair weathered audience dhamaal 10 is the best movie.
definitely fight scenes which are purely shot, lack of wound, lack of good hand to hand fighting is there in bw.
Ranveer and Sara’s chemistry IMO worked because they didn’t make her do any gross intimate scenes unnecessarily nor was she made to wear any revealing clothes all the time. The clothes thing suited the sensibilities too of the script given that she is the daughter of a politician and has to dress well and decent but we saw her being a rebel despite that and yet she wasn’t given any cheap dress. Their relationship also worked because they made sure that the chemistry was created based on how they looked at each other, Gehra Hua is a fabulous example of establishing that. You see them steal glances of each other and nowhere does it look strange or icky. In the second movie in their final scene your heart is in fact crushed at the realisation that they had to part ways. For 2 movies we felt he had honey trapped her and she was a victim but in the end when he tells her his name Dhar tells us he fell in love with her truly too despite never making him say those words out loud. It’s in the way that the scene is acted and directed - Ranveer’s acting in that scene isn’t as appreciated as it deserves to be because you can see all these emotions cross his face and yet a restraint because Jaskirat is a controlled man. The way he closes his eyes when she says his real name tells you how much that meant to him and you knew he was in love too, it may have started as an act but it was no longer one even from his end. That’s why him burning the picture of his wife and son in the end in a parallel to him burning the picture of himself with his parents and sisters hits just as much and we are shaken by the depth of his losses in both the scenes. The second one more than the first because we have actually spent more time with him and Yalina. We feel for the child who lost his father forever.
i still have issue with yalina's age. i get why they did, bt i also think if she was 20+ nothing would change. bt sara dont look 20 so they took the decision
and yeah they didnt make it creepy and seemed like sara had good time too. it worked out in the end
Ajay Atul would’ve killed it especially for sequences that require us to feel the emotion like when say Prabhu Ram and Hanuman meet for the first time ever or when the Vanvaas conversation is played out. But alas..
arreee ajay atul did adipurush music no? that jay shree ram raja ram was so popular.
I haven’t yet watched Baahubali tbh, I know it seems grand and all but somehow the OTT action sequences just aren’t my cup of tea. So you can imagine how much enthusiasm I had for Kalki. I was introduced to Prabhas courtesy of Baahubali and honestly I don’t know what to say here because I found him mediocre even there. It’s just that he’s got a good height and built but whatever he had is now being wasted. His hair is going which I can’t blame him for but he looks bloated and like he’s sleepwalking all the time. I saw like 15 minutes of Kalki and gave up because it felt like the movie was dragging and I wasn’t enjoying whatever was on the screen. The whole premise about Kalki Bhagwan being somewhat of a test tube baby also put me off. We know his mother will be called Sumati and his father will be called Vishnuyashas. So I was not even sure why they needed this whole thing where Deepika was seen as some captive who’s experimented on and what purpose does it serve? Not to mention that I didn’t understand the forced attempt at glorification of Karna or whatever. Karna was no hero even if he was wronged. I think in the next part they’ll go with the same old he was suppressed by the society because of his Varna nonsense when in reality Karna had a good life and he was not treated like some untouchable or anything. He studied at Guru Drona’s ashram who simply refused to give him the knowledge of Brahmastra and it was his right to do so as a teacher who felt that Karna was not a suitable candidate to teach something so dangerous. Ironically we see his own son displaying how if an individual is taught something when they don’t deserve it or they aren’t capable of it how it turns out given that Ashwathama could fire the Brahmastra but couldn’t call it back.
this karna glorification in across tv shows and movies boil my blood. suryaputra karna is one show i cant even hate watch. and that show had good actors you know. bt fck that show. fck that
they had interesting sci fi future+mahabharat mix of kalki. now that deepika isnt returning they will probably tell audience shes dead in childbirth, prabhas character coming out of brainwash of kamal hasan, amitabh prabhas team up to rescue the kid. with grand set pieces
atlst to give credit telegu tamil movies tries something different in grand scale which is bw scared too. malayalam does small scale movies well
prabhas looked so good in mirchi and rebel. mirchi's interval scene was so good. rebel worked due to his swag lol. bahubali 2>> 1. 1 had such weird scenes with prabhas tamannah. movie 2 they didnt do those nonsense and ofcrs we had anushka.
kalki works only in post interval and last 30 mins.
The issue isn’t if or not Prabhas will take only the same kind of roles but that there are not a lot of people who can write good scripts and stories. Even if they can, the directors and the audience are stuck in a loop of showing OTT stupidity in the name of action sequences. The audience is to be blamed for this as well because if they had rejected nonsense then it wouldn’t be made but when the likes of Pushpa go biting people around with their hands tied behind their backs and it’s considered awesome the bar is in hell already.
The audience should also appreciate good action for the same to be done in the future. Like take an example of Kill, such a great action movie. The fact that the production house that made John Wick bought rights to remake it tells you a lot. The action in Dhurandhar was also realistic and we didn’t see any nonsense just to hype RS up either. Unless we appreciate and demand good stuff, it won’t be made.
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