Bollywood At CJP Protest - Page 60

Originally posted by: Candylicious

Agar koi Indian modi ya bjp se nafrat karta hai baat samajh mein aati hai. Lekin koi videshi unse itni shiddat se nafrat kyon karta hai? videshi log ka isse kya lena dena hai, un par iska kya asar padta hai?

why do Indians hate Trump? or why do the whole world hate Hitler? they are not part of their country. its human nature to hate a dictator or to call them out on their wrongdoings. it does not matter if they are part of that specific country or not.

they have every right to give their opinion.

Originally posted by: iamrebelheart

why do Indians hate Trump? or why do the whole world hate Hitler? they are not part of their country. its human nature to hate a dictator or to call them out on their wrongdoings. it does not matter if they are part of that specific country or not.

they have every right to give their opinion.

Why does world celebrate Churchill, who is responsible for Bengal Famine and death of 3M people in one incident alone?

Indians hate Trump because Trump affects us, we wouldn't give a flying F, like we don't give a flying F to whoever is ruling Germany, I can guarantee you that 90%+ Indians wouldn't know who is leader of Germany or any other country which doesn't affect us

You all have wet dreams of Modi becoming a dictator, maybe you want to see the catastrophe again, who knows but when someone lists "Hitler" and then lightly use "Dictator" for someone else that's an example of how they are downplaying the massacre caused by dictators like Hitler

It just means that your interests are political not rooted in compassion for millions of humans tortured by people like Hiter, Churchill, Israel and Pakistan

Originally posted by: Clochette

Dear, just imagine that there are people who don't feel the need for a "facade"... I belong to them... but yes, I should skip to mention the fact that I don't understand Hindi...I can understand that it gets "annoying".... and no, my life revolves around my family and my life in Germany and Switzerland, India is just a small (but important) part of my life (and so is the forum)

Dear, I am not playing this game with you

My translator: "It is understandable if an Indian hates Modi or the BJP. But why does a foreigner hate them so intensely? What do foreigners have to do with this? How does it affect them?"

Yes, I'm a complete foreigner... BUT:

1 - I don't "hate" one of the persons, I detest and contest, what they DO (or don't do, for that matter).

2 - I've emotional ties with India and I would like so very much that the living conditions for the common people would not longer be in the hands of greedy, corrupt and selfish people who misuse the power given to them.

3 - It affects people I know and I love.

Does t h a t answer your questions?

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

Dear, I am not playing this game with you

I didn't perceive it as a "game" considering your post to which I reacted. However, if you belong to those who see me as someone I'm not then it's your choice. At least you don't call me Abdul or Fatima or give me a Muslim stamp and Pakistan-lover... thanks for that.

Originally posted by: Clochette

I didn't perceive it as a "game" considering your post to which I reacted. However, if you belong to those who see me as someone I'm not then it's your choice. At least you don't call me Abdul or Fatima or give me a Muslim stamp and Pakistan-lover... thanks for that.

Let's be clear, there are millions of people in India who don't understand a word of Hindi and they don't even consume Hindi movies and don't care about politics of Hindi belt

I kept telling you India is vast throughout our discussion and explaining that it is not ruled by one political party but you keep insisting that you read and understand politics of India

Even someone living in Hyderabad or Chennai wouldn't claim what you do

I shared link about paper leak people being caught and you quote it with conspiracy theory of Ram Mandir incident, who does that?

People keep giving Trump's example here even though American policies affect India but even Indians wouldn't talk about other cases happening in different states of America

Your cover is being blown by your need to talk about India, the point is talk freely and own your identity, there's no shame in being Indian

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

... You all have wet dreams of Modi becoming a dictator, maybe you want to see the catastrophe again, who knows but when someone lists "Hitler" and then lightly use "Dictator" for someone else that's an example of how they are downplaying the massacre caused by dictators like Hitler

It just means that your interests are political not rooted in compassion for millions of humans tortured by people like Hiter, Churchill, Israel and Pakistan

Only quoting this part:..

Nothing in the post you reacted to does warrant such allegations... they a purely personal interpretations

And no, our dreams are not "wet" ... yet someone who acts like a kind of dictator is responsible himself for that impression... and no, mentioning Hitler can have other reasons than the atrocities he made do (he did not kill o n e juif or disabled person or a gypsy himself)... with the help of like-minded (and like-interested) people he changed the thinking of people through measures also employed now by other governments... and neither he nor Mussolini nor Franco did invent the "how to become a dictator"... history of mankind gave them shining examples they just combined with the then modern means.

Nothing else do (wanna-be) dictators around the world... until they get stopped - from the outside or the inside...

Unreal trivialization of exceptional atrocities caused by Hilter only because they need to fit Modi in that mould

This is someone who claims to be from Germany speaking, imagine, Germans downplaying what Hitler did

You'd think someone from Germany would feel closely for the horror of holocaust and would speak against the trivialization

Thanks for proving my point, dear

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

... I shared link about paper leak people being caught and you quote it with conspiracy theory of Ram Mandir incident, who does that? ...

Your cover is being blown by your need to talk about India, the point is talk freely and own your identity, there's no shame in being Indian

Only quoting the parts relevant to me:

paper leaks happend because of corrupt and greedy people... the Ram Mandir (and many other temple) thefts happen because of corrupt and greedy people... what does many 'bad' things happening all over India often have in common? I would say "corrupt and greedy people"... (and to make it clear, here in t h i s forum, yes, it is about India for me, but India is only o n e of about 200 countries where also "corrupt and greedy people" exist, however not in all those countries on the verge to get the upper hand for a certain 'way of life'...)

I completely agree with you: "there's no shame in being Indian"... maybe I was even one in a previous life... it would make me happy to know.

I wouldn't have cared one bit, if they unnecessarily didn't poke to explain my country to me, I live here, I vote here, I don't have plans of moving

You all see protests and enjoy, I live in fear of mob entering my house and my only response to any kind of protest or men on ground scenario is government listening as soon as possible so there's no loss of life

These are our people, police is ours, India stands to lose as a whole

I have joined many protests, I regularly do but we are never violent even in large numbers

The wet dreams of Nepal and Bangladesh like situation was horrifying for us living in India because in both nations, women were sexually assaulted

People sitting comfortably outside India can definitely talk about anything, you are free to do so, I am none to stop anyone but understand that you are not local, you don't face any consequences of anything happening on ground

It is all political at the end of the day, none cared about real reforms, we'll go back fighting for what we want/need again